Jacob Harver on the Bob Hagan Incident

Youngstown — Posted on February 12, 2010 at 4:25 pm

I’m sitting here at the Lemon Grove getting some work done and wanted to take a second to post Jacob Harver’s letter about the Bob Hagan incident last week. There was some confusion in the two Vindicator articles about it and some misquoting (and, by the way, how is “Assault witness says Hagan was belligerent one” an appropriate title when the “assault witness” is the “mother of the accused“?). I’m sure there are multiple angles to a violent incident in a crowded restaurant/bar, but in the hopes it will help clear the air a bit, read on…

Concerning the Night of the 6th

On February 6th, coinciding with the Lemon Grove 6 month anniversary, Brandon Martin had a show entitled “Shock and Awe,” featuring dancers, musicians, actors, and poets. Since graduating from the the Theater Department at YSU, Brandon has been a great resource to Youngstown arts and culture. In 2009 he started the organization UN ACT devoted to exposing and educating children and adults to the wonders of the arts.

Monica Beasley Martin, Brandon’s mother, an AME pastor, and veteran of the Youngstown Playhouse, was emceeing the event.

Among the performers for the evening were EOS Whole Fitness and Dorian Thomas. EOS is a studio on Belmont Avenue that is a space for yoga and belly dance. Their belly dance is not of a lewd variety, but in the words of proprietor Jennifer Neal, “this particular form of dance is actually rooted in ancient spirituality, and it supports, strengthens, and connects people of all races, genders, sizes, ages, and religions.”

Dorian Thomas is a local artist, who performed in the play “Lucasville” in New York City and in many local shows with other Youngstown actors.  From talking to those who have worked with him, he seems to have no known incidents of antisocial behavior, previous to this evening.

Though the Lemon Grove has an elevated stage, its size is not conducive to dance pieces. All the dance performances took place on the dance floor in front of the stage. Dorian Thomas had already danced his piece, when EOS went on to perform at approximately 11:15pm. The cafe was filling up at this point, though still significantly within its 134 capacity, and more patrons clustered around to see EOS perform their dance. It is reported that the Thomas family was becoming more and more agitated with the fact that people were standing around the performance area and obstructing the view from their chairs. Had they asked me or anyone on the staff to, we would have accommodated any requests to make the show more visible to them, though they had no disabilities preventing them from standing like everyone else.

It is into this scene that Rep. Hagan, Mrs. Hagan, daughter Natalia, and friends entered the Lemon Grove. In joining into the cluster of people they too obstructed the view of the Thomas’ family table. Witnesses report Mrs. Thomas was becoming more angrily adamant about people to move. By the nature of the cluster of people and the music playing it is impossible to know an exact transcription of what words were said, but Rep. Hagan said something to the effect of that it is crowded and there is no way she will be able to see from her seat. The Thomas family believes that Rep. Hagan was being belligerent to them, though this is not corroborated by anyone else surrounding them. Dorian Thomas then got in Rep. Hagan’s face, and Rep. Hagan told him to back away. Then Dorian swung, landing a punch on Rep. Hagan’s chin sending him to the floor. Natalia Hagan, Rep. Hagan’s daughter got into the fray to protect her father, while Lemon Grove team member Nick Celio pulled Dorian back and began to escort him out the door of the Lemon Grove. Dorian’s father then forcefully pushed Natalia to the ground onto her father. Mrs. Thomas pulled put a taser and is reported to have fired it but did not hit anyone with it.

Ironically, as this was occurring I, the owner of the Lemon Grove, in understanding that it was beginning to be difficult for patrons to see, was behind the EOS dancers on stage setting up a camcorder and projector so that more people could witness the dance. I heard a commotion arise above the music and then saw Nick Celio escorting Dorian out the door. I jumped the half wall in between the door and stage to go outside with the two to see what was happening. Nick was yelling at him leave the premises and he started to walk down the street while his father came outside.

For this to happen to anyone is in excusable. It is all the more unfortunate for it to happen to Rep. Hagan, who has been such a staunch supporter of the Lemon Grove and other downtown businesses. Rep. Hagan’s position as an elected official played no role in this conflict. His daughter Natalia has been a wonderful employee at the Lemon Grove and continues to work when she is home from college.

An act of violence such as this is the antithesis of what the Lemon Grove represents. We are a cafe centered around the arts, whose mission is to provide a positive cultural and economic impact in downtown Youngstown. Though we serve alcohol, what we pride ourselves on is that it is not a “bar.” Rather it is a place where people can enjoy coffee, food, alcohol, art, and culture in an unparalleled atmosphere. So far we have lived up to this mission well and a random senseless act as this will not deter us from it.

Thank you,
Jacob Harver
president of The Lemon Grove
jacob@lemongrovecafe.com

Popularity: 7% [?]

Tags: downtown, violence

    5 Comments

  • Scott says:

    As a frequent visitor to the Lemon Grove, while the Hagan incident is unfortunate, I think all who patronize there regularly agree this is the exception to the mood and atmosphere they have created there, not the rule. I have met with many people there and they enjoy the ambiance and I have friends from all ethnicities and backgrounds that have always felt safe and comfortable there.

    While no public establishment wants controversy or incidents to occur on their premises, there will be times when random acts of loss of control or stupidity will eek out from time to time. I think it shows the character of the Lemon Grove that the incident was handled quickly and correctly, removing the situation by leading him out immediately, and the owner taking a vested interest immediately. Although I was not there, you almost have to appreciate the fact that the person who assaulted Representative Hagan stayed to face the consequences instead of running away, although I don’t know that personally. Downtown is still the safest place in Youngstown per capita overall and I enjoy going down there not only to the Lemon Grove, but to all the downtown has to offer, from entertainment to food to music and commerce.

  • I’ve been on the receiving end of a public debacle locally in recent times, and would sincerely welcome an insurgence of civility and critical thinking amongst the people in our valley.
    I’ll be doing my part.

  • JJ says:

    I think the Lemon Grove is great. With so many young folks leaving our area it’s terrific someone like Jacob has stayed here and is committed, to making our area better. On the other hand we have too many quick tempered people like Dorian Thomas. Reading about the violent nature of Thomas’s parents we can see where he gets his anger.

    Beings Dorian does not have a record I am happy Rep. Hagan wanted to let bygones be. He’s a better man than me as I might have forgave Dorian but not his father if he had knocked my daughter down. I don’t believe in violence but I would have stomped Mr. Thomas into the ground if he had injured my daughter.

    Another issue is the fact that I had attended a show a few months ago at the Lemon Grove with much the same acts as the night in question. I had gone with three friends to see a band at Cedars. We went early to get seats as I can’t stand for long as I need a knee replaced. An hour later a crowd stood in front of us and could have cared less that we couldn’t see. We asked people to move and they refused. Instead of attacking anyone we left. I decided sometime ago to never go to big concerts and pay big money for a floor seat as people are just going to stand in front of you. Much better to get balconey seats and be able to sit and see.

    We walked over to the Lemon Grove to see the dancing show. We were about an hour early and got good seats up front. We bought some drinks and settled in. The show started and people came from everywhere to stand in front of us. We asked people to move and they turned around and stared at us like we didn’t exist. I note that Dorian Thomas was one of the dancers. He didn’t care that those of us who arrived early to get a seat now had our view blocked. He never stood up for us. I guess he is only concerned when his families view is blocked.

    I am not saying Bob Hagen should have been struck for blocking peoples view. I am just asking, why can’t people actually look around and see there are other people on the planet besides themselves?

    I commend Jacob for trying to set up a projector so people could see. I think many clubs need to figure out a seating arrangement to include everyone. I will continue to patronize the Lemon Grove and other downtown places but I hope they are not patronized by violent families like the Thomas’s and by by folks who don’t care about anyone but themselves.

  • Pat Murray says:

    I’ve been to the Canfield Fair to watch demonstrations and people herded in front of me, blocking my view. People have the philosophy of “me first”, it doesn’t matter if you staked out a spot 20 minutes ago. My first instinct was to ram them out of the way. But my cooler head prevailed. No shoving or tasers needed.